Dogmen and Native American Lore

Generally my work in this field of Dogman tends to concentrate on gathering sightings reports, mapping them and thinking an awful lot about what all of this could mean.
There are rarely any answers.
My true goal is not to gain anything, not notoriety, fame or money.
I’m looking to learn as much as I possibly can in the hope that I may be of help to people who come in contact with the phenomenon of Dogmen.
What I want to be able to say is something like:
“take a stick, smear it with tar and sprinkle on dried lavender and keep it just inside your front door to always be safe from Dogmen”.

Or in other words, I want to be able to give concrete advice, to help people protect themselves, be safe and feel safe.
And just to be clear: the tar stick won’t do you any good…

Sadly this creature doesn’t come with an instructions manual.
Observing its behavior toward witnesses, researching ancient lore and everything that has ever been put on paper about this subject still doesn’t offer much in the way of explanations.
As soon as you find some pieces of the puzzle that seem to fit together, to give you an idea, another thing comes along and shatters everything.
That is if you are true.
Some people have an idea and stick with it no matter what, trying to mold reality to fit within the outlines of that idea.
If you’re completely honest and truthful you admit that knowing all that you know means absolutely nothing.

What I can offer in the ways of advice is not even truly related to the Dogman itself. It’s small pieces picked up from skinwalker lore and fleshgait lore that might have something to do with the Dogman:

cinnamon-92594_640Salt.
High density metals, such as iron, gold, silver.
Praying.
Smoke of cinnamon.

Not much, is it?

Then I ran into this post in a Dogman group on Facebook. The post is by a woman, Marie, who is also featured on Dogman Encounters Radio ep 48.
I found the post very interesting and I believe it talks about things that would be very useful for people to know.
I have her permission to share her post here:

Native lore and dogmen

As some of you may know I was out doing some bush camping on the weekend.
As I was in southern Ontario and quite near a Indian reservation and needed fuel I stopped on the way home at a native owned gas bar. I’ve known the owner operator of the gas bar for a few years now, he knows I’m a outdoors person and about some of my adventures. He jokes sometime that I should have been a native. So as I trust him and he had time, I told him about the podcast I did on Dogman encounters.
He got a little animated and asked me if I could hang around for a while. So I did.
His shift ended and he asked me to his home for coffee. So I accompanied him to his home.
When we got there he introduced me to his father.
His father is about 70 years old, he has a weathered looking strongly native face and a typically Mohawk native mannerism about him. Stoicism and stalwart.
I was asked to tell my story so we sat on the porch drank strong black coffee brewed with wild chicory and I told him of my encounter.
The old man sat listening silently nodding on occasion but saying nothing.
After my story had been told he sat in silence for a long moment. Then got up and went into the house returning several minutes later with some home grown tobacco a small smooth stone with a wolf figure on it and some sweet grass.
Then he sat and started talking. The talk lasted about 2 hours.
He told me of Wendigo first. Wendigo is a native spirit creature cannibalistic and also a trickster.
Then he talked about wolf people. He told me that when one enters the wilds they should do it with respect for everything around them. You should not enter the bush thinking you know everything.
You should never challenge nature because nature cannot be challenged.
Wolf people show them selves to people in two ways. The watcher is the first way. When one see’s a watcher they can expect to feel scrutinized and a sense of unease. If a watcher interacts with you it may be a trickster, items may go missing from your camp.
It may spring out at you. Scare you or follow you.
He gave me the stone tobacco and sweet grass. Then we walked into the woods behind his home. He instructed me to roll the tobacco between my fingers then lay it on the ground. I did so. He told me to light the sweet grass aflame so I did.
We let it smolder, waving it to the north then south east and west. Saying nothing at all.
The stone he gave me stayed in my pocket. He told me to keep it.
He said the watcher will not hurt you unless you try to hurt it.
We went back to the porch. Sat a bit more.
He said if you are angry, vengeful or have ill intentions you may meet the other kind. If you do something contrary to nature you may attract it. He told me of times angry people have disappeared. Never seen again.
He concluded the conversation telling me that if you enter the wilds with respect you will return home with a sense of peace. But if you enter with ill intentions, anger or with out respect for nature. You may not return at all.

I’ve always loved nature. I’ve always been awed by it’s majesty.
The night I had my encounter Jody was upset that we had been run off by the policeman back in town.
He was angry and hostile about the situation. It went for him.
It all comes together in my mind now.
I’ve never seen a Dogman since.
If I do see one it will probably be a watcher. Because I love and respect nature and it soothes me. Guys when you go out into our be beautiful wilderness do it at peace. Peace with yourself and everything around you.
Fear and anger brings bad things to you.

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13 thoughts on “Dogmen and Native American Lore”

  1. I have some different and interesting ideas on my google page regarding some of the things happening within our world. Please don’t take offense to things you may see regarding my views of humanity, i am just very much in support of the animals and even these cryptids. Its an amazing world yes indeed. I read the native lore and dogmen story here. I was deeply touched by it. Also i am going through a deep spiritual journey as a werewolf. I took a long walk in the dark on a dirt road the other night in the heart of wolf creature territory. I felt such contentment, its a wonderful experience. Please Take care.

  2. The wendigo is NOT a trickster of any type even remotely close to that of a “werewolf” “dogman” or “wolf people” or any other name people like you make up. Your story is either partially fake or you were misinformed. People like you make any form of disclosure near impossible. And “zay” YOU are NOT a werewolf…..you are pathetic. NO “werewolf” flaunt themselves like a trophy to be envied or desired let alone admit to being such a thing due to the unpredictable yet highly dangerous outcomes that would result from such a careless and idiotic statement that IF it were factual the government would bag and tag you if your own kind did not “dispose” of you first. To sum it all up a native American trickster is “here” to observe for the holy spirit and is COMPLETELY different than a wendigo which WILL eat a person if possible. To those reading this please note a “werewolf” is either a person who summoned demons around them through satanic worship OR is a servent of God. If you drive in sin you are COMPLETELY exposed and vulnerable HOWEVER prayer does keep all “werewolf” “tricksters” at bay for obvious reasons. I hope people stop trying to be apart of something they do not understand and completely disrespect regardless of the intentions. Leave the life of these creatures alone. They deserve their own lives to be explained by themselves WITHOUT a panicked, uninformed , assumptively homicidal”species” (humans) thinking and believing things their own”kind” fabricated. If a “werewolf” does exist is has no motivation of any type to reveal itself to the public and is more likely to remove itself as much as possible from ANY exposure from fear of being looked at as a mutant creature that would not have an opportunity to answer mankind’s endless questions and assumptions which would likely lead to jealous and hateful humans hunting it down and killing it before it even had a chance to simply exist openly amongst people. Thank you for your time. I hope this is useful. Thank you.

    1. I have to say I’m so very confused by this comment…
      First of all, the mentioning of wendigo in this post was by an older Native American in a QOUTE, not by me.

      Maybe you should get better acquainted with my blog before you go a spew hateful crap like this all over it?

    2. Anonymouswolf01

      Your words lack any real humility of spirit and just want to say that arrogance and anger won’t get you as far as you think it will. You probably didn’t even realize that I stand apart from my own kind to support nature and the animals. An individual truly worthy of life is not a person that only supports his own species, but also stands up to protect non human life as well, and there are many that are wishy washy about protecting and supporting non human life. Make no mistake, there are few creatures in this world as malevolent as humans, regardless of how kind people are to each other, humanity has not been kind to nature and the earth. I find much more honor being a werewolf, than being a self righteous human bigot. Arrogance , pride and anger are very dangerous virtues to live by. And being werewolf is not about being a monster, it is a means of separation from your own species malevolence and misdeeds. You can choose your own path, even amongst the shadows.

      Even those that follow the Bible blindfolded may not find themselves worthy in the end. This is mentioned in the great book itself, yet it’s funny how so many of its followers overlook this subtle reference. I’m not religious, nor do I dabble in such matters, but your comment was more than a bit rude and unappreciated. Here are some words of wisdom for you to think about.

      An individual truly worthy of the truth, is one who discovers it on their own, whether or not they followed in the footsteps of another.

      1. Honestly Zay, no offense but you can defend these creatures all you want, I had my own encounter years ago, it wasn’t pleasant. Not to mention nothing was done to provoke any attack, our own animals were killed just for sport by these beings, not even for the necessity of food. Bigfoot do not do this, THEY are benevolent, not the Dogmen. I honestly think you’re some werewolf fanatic who’s just making this shit up.

  3. Thank you for sharing, I agree in regards to respecting the forest or wherever you are be grateful, secondly in regards to anonymous I think they didn’t get the message in regards to carrying hate, like attracts like as they say.

  4. There are people who have had good experiences with Dogmen. These flesh and blood beings know who love and respect nature and the rich varied life Earth supports. Those are the people they dont harm. They are defensive against those who feel everything is put on Earth for them to use.

    1. There is much to be learned about life that much is certain. I found your words inspiring and insightful. Even in “The Book” there are subtle cross references to many believing they have life figured out only to find out later they were wrong. PEACE.

  5. Hello everyone. I have been thinking as I have researched Sasquatch and Dogman(wolf people). I am a sixteen generation American with Native blood on my moms side. Being multicultural, Scotch, Irish, Mexican and Apache Indian growing up in Texas. I have respect for all beings, of any race. All I ask is that u respect me as well or we will have a problem. I require it like most people. I too love the outdoors living in Austin TX. in my younger years moving to Houston when I was in Middle school and been here ever since. I have many pets and love all animals.
    I have always had an interest in Bigfoot since I was a young boy hearing the stories. I have discovered where they the Sasquatch people like to hang out in the forest of Texas. I will not tell you which forest as I wish them no harm. The Sasquatch people love to watch us. We are there entertainment. I have several pictures of them. I know they are there with the Dogmen. I have come to believe that they tolerate each other or possibly have a symbiotic relationship. I have a pic with juvenile Sasquatches with Dogmen not far away. The Native American people have known of them for hundreds of years. If an elder told that story I would listen and learn. Take it with a grain of salt. I feel for people who are dealing with aggressive Dogmen. My own commonsense tells me that our own folk lore of Werewolves are just a mistaken identity. What people have been calling Werewolves are really Dogmen( wolf people) for thousands of years. I am sure sooner or later these Cryptids will be proven to the closed minded people in the future. Let us just hope none of us or them are hurt in the process. Thank you Ms. Cloaked Hedgehog for your help in spreading the word. God Bless All.

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